== Wilderness Research==
PLEASE ADD YOUR RESEARCH BY EDITING THE END OF THIS TABLE
Good job everybody! We've assembled a good amount of Archer and Ballista information, and are requesting a bit more info with other troop types, especially Cavalry and Catapults. Level 10 wilderness data especially needed to complete KoC Wiki. Keep the info coming, greatly appreciated!
The most useful data are from attacks that lose minimal troops, or no losses at all. We are looking for an effective army unit, show us what you got!
Research MUST be conducted as follows:
- Send one militia per trap in to do trap removal.
- Send your main army with 1 militia (so as not to overtake your initial trap removal squad).
- Record your result, including research levels.
- For the timestamp/sig column, you can just put ~~~~ (4 tildes in a row) to automatically fill in the details.
Poi = Poisoned Edge, Met = Metal Alloys, Flt = Fletching, Heal = Healing Potion
| Wild Lvl |
Poi | Met | Flt | Heal | Knight Lvl |
Pikes Sent |
Lost | Sword Sent |
Lost | Archer Sent |
Lost | Cav Sent |
Lost | H.Cav Sent |
Lost | Ballista Sent |
Lost | Ram Sent | Lost | Cats Sent |
Lost | TimeStamp/Sig | Other Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 54 | 301 | 301 | 227 | 227 | 561 | 561 | 20 | 20 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ****. lost battle | |
| 8 | 9 | 6 | 9 | 9 | 76 | 40000 | 31 | 800 | 1 | Elwynd 14:32, May 4, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 77 | 17000 | 714 | 500 | 102 | Elwynd 14:32, May 4, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 77 | 18000 | 324 | 500 | 100 | Elwynd 14:37, May 4, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 4 | 75 | 19000 | 1231 | 200 | 100 | Elwynd 16:23, May 4, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 77 | 18000 | 901 | 200 | 100 | Elwynd 14:37, May 4, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 5 | 75 | 20000 | 727 | 200 | 100 | Elwynd 19:45, May 4, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 5 | 75 | 19000 | 640 | 200 | 100 | Elwynd 15:02, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 7 | 9 | 5 | 75 | 19000 | 640 | 200 | 100 | Elwynd 15:02, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 77 | 21000 | 318 | 500 | 100 | Elwynd 15:02, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 5 | 75 | 21000 | 274 | 500 | 100 | Elwynd 20:34, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 75 | 19000 | 640 | 200 | 100 | Elwynd 20:34, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 8 | 78 | 21000 | 378 | 500 | 102 | Elwynd 12:42, May 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 6 | 75 | 23000 | 318 | 500 | 100 | Elwynd 12:42, May 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 6 | 75 | 21000 | 318 | 500 | 100 | Elwynd 12:42, May 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 75 | 21000 | 464 | 200 | 100 | Elwynd 12:42, May 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 6 | 9 | 6 | 75 | 21000 | 319 | 500 | 100 | Elwynd 12:42, May 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 8 | 75 | 800 | 297 | Elwynd 13:16, May 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 7 | 9 | 8 | 85 | 77000 | 410 | 300 | 100 | Byrron 06:57, May 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 10 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 5 | 72 | 59999 | 3778 | 0 | 0 | Desero 09:32, May 9, 2010(UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 100 | 15870 | 1414 | 110 | 10 | Jstuart99705 07:15, May 11, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| Wild | Poi | Met | Fle | Heal | Knight | Pike |
Pike |
Sword | Lost | Archers | Lost | Cav | Lost | HCav | Lost | Ballista | Lost | Ram | Lost | Cats | Lost | Timestamp | Notes |
|
10 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
72 |
79000 |
2776 |
0 |
0 |
LouizaV 13:50, May 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
75 |
79000 |
2776 |
0 |
0 |
LouizaV 14:04, May 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
73 |
79000 |
4126 |
0 |
0 |
Jessie74 20:39, May 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
74 |
79000 |
4126 |
0 |
0 |
Jessie74 20:48, May 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
74 |
77000 |
1980 |
1000 |
400 |
Jessie74 21:24, May 11, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
89799 |
2286 |
200 |
200 |
Corralynn 05:38, May 12, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
63 |
60000 |
2776 |
0 |
0 |
LouizaV 19:00, May 12, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
7 |
63 |
57224 |
2781 |
0 |
0 |
LouizaV 19:22, May 12, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
10 |
9 |
88 |
77693 |
2126 |
0 |
0 |
Aibell 22:09, May 12, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
85(106) |
78940 |
1628 |
1060 |
350 |
LivingDust 04:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
107 |
79239 |
1888 |
760 |
352 |
LivingDust 05:13, May 13, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
9 |
6 |
6 |
8 |
5 |
73 |
79999 |
923 |
0 |
0 |
Desero 13:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
10 |
9 |
95 |
59999 |
2246 |
0 |
0 |
Aibell 20:51, May 13, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
9 |
8 |
8 |
8 |
8 |
84 |
10000 |
1 |
33000 |
1200 |
0 |
0 |
Blue maxx 20:33, May 14, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
10 |
9 |
68 |
60000 |
2596 |
0 |
0 |
Aibell 22:39, May 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
10 |
9 |
68 |
60000 |
2476 |
0 |
0 |
Aibell 22:39, May 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
10 |
9 |
68 |
60000 |
2476 |
0 |
0 |
Aibell 22:39, May 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
10 |
9 |
95 |
59548 |
2476 |
0 |
0 |
Aibell 22:39, May 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
9 |
7 |
7 |
8 |
6 |
77 |
35000 |
1203 |
0 |
0 |
Shuvra 17:49, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
89999 |
2776 |
0 |
0 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Wild | Poi | Met | Fle | Heal | Knight | Pike |
Pike |
Sword | Lost | Archers | Lost | Cav | Lost | HCav | Lost | Ballista | Lost | Ram | Lost | Cats | Lost | Timestamp | Notes |
|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
20000 |
2 |
69999 |
2770 |
0 |
0 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
22000 |
2 |
61999 |
1000 |
6000 |
400 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
87000 |
1006 |
3000 |
350 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
70000 |
1006 |
3000 |
400 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
60000 |
1006 |
3000 |
400 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
20000 |
1006 |
40000 |
1994 |
1000 |
450 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
10000 |
167 |
50000 |
1693 |
1200 |
450 |
Gregorysean 19:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
58000 |
1283 |
1800 |
400 |
Gregorysean 20:14, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
60000 |
1283 |
1800 |
400 |
Gregorysean 20:33, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
10000 |
2 |
60000 |
1276 |
1800 |
400 |
Gregorysean 21:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
15000 |
2 |
60000 |
1276 |
1800 |
400 |
Gregorysean 21:59, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
60000 |
1190 |
2000 |
400 |
Gregorysean 22:28, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
89 |
60000 |
1006 |
2400 |
400 |
Gregorysean 10:41, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
80 |
21000 |
318 |
500 |
100 |
Gregorysean 22:34, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
8 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
79 |
16500 |
18000 |
170 |
400 |
Jennings1968 00:52, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
8 |
8 |
8 |
8 |
8 |
102 |
12500 |
12500 |
240 |
250 |
Doyousketch2 07:12, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
8 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
72 |
10000 |
1 |
800 |
Jennings1968 10:42, May 18, 2010 (UTC) |
Only lost 1 Archer. Increasing Archers to 12500 or Ballistas to 900 yielded same results. | |||||||||||||
| Wild | Poi | Met | Fle | Heal | Knight | Pike |
Pike |
Sword | Lost | Archers | Lost | Cav | Lost | HCav | Lost | Ballista | Lost | Ram | Lost | Cats | Lost | Timestamp | Notes |
|
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
88 |
22000 |
0 |
60000 |
1000 |
1000 |
340 |
6000 |
0 |
250 |
200 |
Gregorysean 10:16, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
this wave also included 250 pikers and 500 battering rams with no losses to either. I do not think they were useful at all. I believe the loss of 200 of the 250 sent catapults offset the loss of the ballistae seen in other tests. | ||||||
|
10 |
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
89 |
60000 |
1190 |
2000 |
400 |
Gregorysean 10:16, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
Equiv. to #52 in results - poisoned edge and knight both +1 | ||||||||||||
|
8 |
9 |
8 |
9 |
9 |
74 |
17500 |
17500 |
216 |
300 |
Jennings1968 11:00, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
89 |
58000 |
1006 |
2500 |
400 |
Gregorysean 11:18, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
nearly same as #53. this is the most efficient of mine to date | ||||||||||||
|
8 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
72 |
10000 |
125 |
500 |
Jennings1968 13:02, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
Only lost 125 archers. | |||||||||||||
|
10 |
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
89 |
58000 |
1000 |
2500 |
340 |
2400 |
400 |
Gregorysean 14:02, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
compare #57 and #60 | ||||||||||
|
10 |
10 |
9 |
9 |
9 |
89 |
58000 |
1006 |
2400 |
400 |
Gregorysean 14:52, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
this is about the most efficient without catapults with these high stats | ||||||||||||
|
9 |
9 |
8 |
9 |
9 |
76 |
12157 |
1 |
35925 |
1060 |
Tx-p 16:44, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
Including Battering 800 Rams (compare 65) | ||||||||||||
|
9 |
9 |
8 |
9 |
9 |
76 |
71907 |
923 |
Tx-p 16:44, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
Including Battering 800 Rams, seems that the amount of Archers has no real effect, something is missing (see Test 64) | ||||||||||||||
|
10 |
7 |
6 |
9 |
6 |
74 |
89999 |
2777 |
Desero 17:04, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
10 |
7 |
6 |
9 |
6 |
74 |
89800 |
2287 |
200 |
200 |
Desero 17:04, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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|
9 |
7 |
6 |
9 |
6 |
74 |
89999 |
923 |
Desero 17:04, May 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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| 9 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 8 | 84 | 4000 | 1 | 40000 | 1060 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Blue maxx 16:06, May 18, 2010 (UTC) | Blood Lust applied 20% boost in attack - total losses of 1060 Archers, 1 Sword | ||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 77 | 60000 | 5596 | Jessie74 19:33, May 18, 2010 (UTC) | I want what LouizaV's got, cos I'm sending same number of troops and suffering much higher loses with better Research... see test 27 | ||||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 57000 | 5476 | Gregorysean 15:12, May 19, 2010 (UTC) | this result makes me think there was an unannounced strength adjustment in the last 24 hrs when taken with #70. I will now retest previously used numbers. | ||||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 60000 | 1006 | 2400 | 400 | Gregorysean 16:26, May 19, 2010 (UTC) | This is essentially a retest of 63 and is precisely what I expected so the last few tests seem to indicate these are right at the most efficient numbers as expected rather than indicating an adjustment in strength of any kind. | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 57000 | 1006 | 2400 | 400 | Gregorysean 16:48, May 19, 2010 (UTC) | Again, this looks most efficient with these high stats and ballistae but without catapults. For archers only I would probably try around 65k and expect around 2776 losses. I'm ok with this for now. | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 56000 | 1006 | 2400 | 400 | Gregorysean 19:21, May 19, 2010 (UTC) | Slightly better than 73 | ||||||||||||
| Wild | Poi | Met | Fle | Heal | Knight | Pike |
Pike |
Sword | Lost | Archers | Lost | Cav | Lost | HCav | Lost | Ballista | Lost | Ram | Lost | Cats | Lost | Timestamp | Notes |
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 55000 | 1006 | 2400 | 400 | Gregorysean 19:49, May 19, 2010 (UTC) | Better | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 54000 | 1006 | 2400 | 400 | Gregorysean 20:03, May 19, 2010 (UTC) | Better | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 54000 | 1096 | 2200 | 400 | Gregorysean 20:33, May 19, 2010 (UTC) | Worse | ||||||||||||
| * | * | * | * | **** 4th CITY UPGRADE **** | |||||||||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 79 | 82607 | 1 | 3050 | 100 | Tx-p 07:24, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | After upgrade!! Does the Metall-Alloy do the effect here of losing the 100 Ballistas?!?? And who did confirm on the Wilderniss page that this was OK? ^^ | ||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 86 | 10000 | 66550 | 2950 | 100 | Tx-p 08:36, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | With 500 Battering rams, different approach to #78, no different, Catapults?!? | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 86 | 56000 | 2285 | 800 | 452 | Gregorysean 10:00, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | First wave included 1200 supply troops who died. I messed up the allistae numbers because I'm doing lvl 8s for crests at the same time. These numbers make me think the previous numbers will work fine if 1:1 shock troops to traps wave is sent first. | ||||||||||||
| 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 64 | 29962 | 0 | 32206 | 0 | 871 | 50 | Eshara24 01:44, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | Imo there should be no ballista loss, however there were, so I'm guessing they will come back in 24 hrs after 5 friends answer the |troop recover call. Will update later if it happens. Also going to test with 40k archer and 800 ballista only. | ||||||||||
| 8 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 86 | 40000 | 0 | 1400 | 0 | Tx-p 21:54, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | @ #81 This way no problem with lvl8 !!! | ||||||||||||
| 8 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 86 | 40000 | 1 | 800 | 0 | Tx-p 21:59, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | Just confirming the Wilderness entry !!! Nearly OK, one loss Archer ;-) But with lvl9 !! Maybe someone can confirm it with lvl8 !!! | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 86 | 6500 | 2 | 79998 | 1000 | 3000 | 450 | Tx-p 22:09, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | +500 Battering Rams (OK, they make no difference), lvl10 fletching makes a difference it seams of 50 balistea, look at #72-74 !!!!! will confrim taht in a sec | ||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 81 | 31765 | 0 | 49762 | 1000 | 4050 | 385 | 3774 | 350 | Fabula 22:33, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 86 | 54000 | 1006 | 2400 | 400 | Tx-p 22:38, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | Gregorysean #75 makes no difference if fletching lvl9 or 10, but look at #85 maybe kava mixed into it? | ||||||||||||
| Wild | Poi | Met | Fle | Heal | Knight | Pike |
Pike |
Sword | Lost | Archers | Lost | Cav | Lost | HCav | Lost | Ballista | Lost | Ram | Lost | Cats | Lost | Timestamp | Notes |
| 10 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 8 | 84 | 0 | 0 | 70000 | 5059 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Blue maxx 00:40, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | **NOTE** 20,000 militia sent with this attack with 257 lost and 20% Bloodlust applied | ||||
| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 74 | 14000 | 1 | 30000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1600 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Jennings1968 11:15, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | Lvl 9 tech attacking a Lvl 9 wild with 30K archers and 14k sword | ||||
| 10 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 8 | 88 | 0 | 0 | 69000 | 5056 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Blue maxx 18:19, May 23, 2010 (UTC) | 20k militia sent with second wave - lost 270 | ||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 76 | 0 | 0 | 47030 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1678 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Desero 10:11, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 76 | 8799 | 0 | 47028 | 1060 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Desero 11:37, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | Forgot to send out Ballista :-( Did sent 1549pikes too, lost 2 of them. | ||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 76 | 8000 | 1 | 45000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1400 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Desero 12:52, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | next test with 40k archer | ||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 76 | 8000 | 1 | 40000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1300 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Desero 13:53, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | next test with 35k archer | ||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 76 | 8000 | 0 | 35000 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1200 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Desero 15:53, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 76 | 8000 | 1 | 35000 | 33 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1100 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Desero 16:09, May 24, 2010 (UTC) |
1100 Balista not enogh for just 1 loss.
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| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 76 | 12000 | 1 | 30000 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1200 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Jennings1968 11:19, May 25, 2010 (UTC) | 1200 Ballistas works | ||||
| 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 96 | 85276 | 0 | 3995 | 0 | Byrron 17:59, May 25, 2010 (UTC) | No losses - also had 724 Rams in the wave | ||||||||||||
| 9 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 82 | 0 | 0 | 85219 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4781 | 100 | 0 | 0 | G32Lurid 15:51, May 26, 2010 (UTC) | I will try adding rams once i trained them as to check #97 | ||||
| 9 | 8 | 6 | 9 | 8 | 77 | 0 | 0 | 75000 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2900 | 100 | 0 | 0 | Desero 16:59, May 26, 2010 (UTC) | Looks like lvl10 fletch is nessesary to not loose any ballista | ||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 97 | 100k | 2126 | Snowcatrm 22:13, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | samel osses as 90k archers | ||||||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 92 | 10000 | 0 | 70000 | 1000 | 2840 | 400 | Tx-p 07:56, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | As usual the 400 balistea.... | ||||||||||
| Wild | Poi | Met | Fle | Heal | Knight | Pike |
Pike |
Sword | Lost | Archers | Lost | Cav | Lost | HCav | Lost | Ballista | Lost | Ram | Lost | Cats | Lost | Timestamp | Notes |
| 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 76 | 77350 | 1 | 2650 | 0 | Tx-p 10:46, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | It seams possible to not loose troops for lvl.9 !! Compared to #97 and #99 it seams to be fletching | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 92 | 5000 | 2 | 65000 | 1000 | 5200 | 400 | Tx-p 19:13, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | No plan how to get it without losses... Impossible... Cats? But how many? | ||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 82 | 10000 | 0 | 70000 | 0 | 2800 | 100 | ||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 83 | 75000 | 1 | 2500 | 0 | Eshara24 01:34, June 4, 2010 (UTC) | Only lost 1 archer, fletching 10 is the key. | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 95 | 1000 | 5 | 8000 | 0 | 80000 | 1000 | 600 | 400 | Sampson326 13:18, June 4, 2010 (UTC) | will always lose 400 ballistas no matter how many u send | ||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 6 | 10 | 9 | 105 | 7000 | 0 | 3500 | 0 | Spazmoid 12:35, June 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 9 | 6 | 10 | 9 | 105 | 7000 | 1 | 3495 | 0 | Spazmoid 13:04, June 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
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2. Try doesn´t works | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 126 | 995 | 758 | 12000 | 227 | 50000 | 1946 | 492 | 460 | Sampson326 07:26, June 6, 2010 (UTC) | lost 1200mm first wave...note(if u miss sendng the first wave in time send twice as many scouts on atk to take out traps instead | ||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 126 | 237 | 5 | 30000 | 58054 | 1000 | 482 | 400 | Sampson326 10:55, June 6, 2010 (UTC) | lost 1200mm first wave | |||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 94 | 90000 | 2776 | Jennings1968 17:13, June 10, 2010 (UTC) | sent 1.2kmm seperately | ||||||||||||||
| 9 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 103 | 35000 | 2 | 2175 | Sampson326 19:26, June 18, 2010 (UTC) | lost 600mm first wave | |||||||||||||
| 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 102 | 83976 | 1006 | 4999 | 350 | LordHearOurPrayer 18:36, June 19, 2010 (UTC) |
Sorry for the oddball numbers; wasn't intending for research. 1st wave: 1199MIL/1BAL. 2nd wave: also included 1025RAM. Total Loss: 1199MIL/1006ARC/351BAL. Question: how did I get the BAL loss down from 401 to 351? The RAMs? Warrants further research, pls. | ||||||||||||
| 8 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 101 | 10000 | 279 | 800 | 23 |
Kingerick 19:56, June 20, 2010 (UTC) |
mountain | ||||||||||||
| 8 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 101 | 40000 | 296 | 800 | 6 |
Kingerick 19:56, June 20, 2010 (UTC) |
mountain | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 9 | 104 | 91804 | 1006 | 8060 | 0 | 136 | 107 | Sampson326 00:50, June 22, 2010 (UTC) | 2400 scouts lost...missed time to send mm first | ||||||||||
| 8 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 64 | 9927 | 401 | 93 | 93 | ```` | 3573 Militiaman sent, 1,573 lost | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 95 | 90000 | 0 | 10000 | 50 | Eshara24 01:31, July 18, 2010 (UTC) | Still 50 cat loss. I'm thinking needs ballista/rams? | ||||||||||||
| 8 | 8 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 73 | 1800 | 0 | 15000 | 240 | 250 | 50 |
PerrinAybara 0800,
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lake, 1000 mm | ||||||||||
| Wild | Poi | Met | Fle | Heal | Knight | Pike | Pike | Sword | Lost | Archers | Lost | Cav | Lost | HCav | Lost | Ballista | Lost | Ram | Lost | Cats | Lost | Timestamp | Notes |
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 116 | 80000 | 0 | 5000 | 0 | 5000 | 0 | 10000 | 50 | Eshara24 13:51, July 23, 2010 (UTC) | Looks like 50 cat loss is definite no matter what.. probably 20k cats will also have same result. | ||||||||
| 9 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 82 | 30742 | 2 | 2265 | 0 | Lord Vet 11:57, July 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 8 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 102 | 13000 | 0 | 31000 | 473 | Anakin13 b 04:58, July 25, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 104 | 13000 | 1 | 40850 | 1060 | Anakin13 b 22:44, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | Looks like you need ballistas to not lose much on lvl 9's | ||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 104 | 13000 | 2 | 67985 | 2270 | Anakin13 b 05:55, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 104 | 12996 | 2 | 62095 | 4120 | Anakin13 b 22:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 10 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 105 | 14000 | 13998 | 66355 | 2770 | Anakin13 b 15:45, July 29, 2010 (UTC) | |||||||||||||
| 9 | 10 | 9 | 10 | 10 | 105 | 45000 | 0 | 50000 | 0 | 5000 | 0 | ```` | Level 9 - No losses. | ||||||||||
| 8 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 9 | 89 | 2500 | 0 | 2500 | 0 | Jason Frazier 08:35, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | Discovered these numbers quite by accident when tried using Lvl 9 suggested numbers and missed a 0 on my archers. | ||||||||||||
| 8 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 66 | 36000 | 545 | Alatari 06:53, August 11, 2010 (UTC) | Least number of archers to take lvl 8 with expected losses. | ||||||||||||||
| 8 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 66 | 300 | 1 | 300 | 0 | 36000 | 543 | Alatari 19:45, August 10, 2010 (UTC) | This is the lowest number before taking more losses. | ||||||||||
| 8 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 66 | 300 | 2 | 300 | 1 | 35000 | 573 | Alatari 19:45, August 10, 2010 (UTC) | Breaking point where losses increase. | ||||||||||
| 8 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 66 | 3500 | 1 | 3500 | 35000 | 543 | Alatari 06:53, August 11, 2010 (UTC) | The extra pikes and swords protect 30 archers and bring back to 543 lost. | |||||||||||
| 8 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 66 | 3500 | 2 | 3500 | 1 | 33000 | 613 | Alatari 06:53, August 11, 2010 (UTC) | Dropping from only archers at 36,000 to 33,000 with pike and sword guards the losses start to climb. | ||||||||||
| 8 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 66 | 1000 | 1 | 1000 | 34000 | 543 | Alatari 06:53, August 11, 2010 (UTC) | Conclusion: you can substitute 1000 pikes and 1000 swords for 2000 archers. (67% instead of 66% knight makes no difference) |
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Note: When you send your trap removal guy, the battle report will show only 1 trap removed. However, your main force will nevertheless NOT be fighting any traps, as you can see by your second battle report, where no traps will be listed. If you find this not to be the case, comment below.
Note: After the latest update, you need to send 1:1 for Militia:Traps. And it will display how many traps were taken out properly as well.
For lvl9 Wild 1st Wave with 1 Milita is still enough to clear all Traps. (edit by: Desero)
Added column for Swordsman sent/lost, I have tested this repeatedly with 1200 lost Archers, 1 lost Sword (edit by: Blue Maxx)
Observations:
- Metal Alloys makes no difference (see test 7 + 8).
- Healing Potions makes no difference ( test 8 + 11)
- Poisoned Edge makes little difference (test 14 + 16)