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Also if you stay on your 'Map' screen and hit 5 of the same type and lvl of wilds, your chances of getting crests go up.
 
Also if you stay on your 'Map' screen and hit 5 of the same type and lvl of wilds, your chances of getting crests go up.
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===='''The Hard but Fast Way by Xeger:'''====
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For you die hards who have been getting aggervated by crest farming, I got ya covered. The easiest way to get your 3rd and 4th city deed, is to select a type of wild, and attack relentlessly. Don't stop until you win a crest. Send out three or four waves consisting of your suicide squad, and your main force. Once you have obtained a crest, wait for the rest to get back in, then attack a new type of wild. But don't be suprised if you attacked six times and did not get one, I can assure you that you will. And, if you time it right, a minute or less between your main attack forces, you could score twice, So get those fingures ready, and that mouse set. To acheive any of this you need to wuick, not super-fast. Just quick.
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My best yet is 2 Bevidere's and 1 Kay, the attacks was a set of 4: 2 suicide squads, and two set's of archers, these groups going to lvl 7 mountains, and lvl 7 forest. So in this I scored 2/2 in the mountains, and 1/2 with the forest. My gains for crest farming is about 45% using this method.
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Remember, Once you get a crest, move on. Also, when it comes to lakes and grasslands, treat them as seperate wilds, grasslands are better for farming than lakes. Happy cresting.
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===='''Tip: Forest have the best yeilds, then moutains, hills, plains, grasslands, and lastly lakes.'''====
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'''NOTE: '''Data for the new level system is in early stages!
 
'''NOTE: '''Data for the new level system is in early stages!

Revision as of 14:54, 13 December 2010

Crests have two features. It is mainly used to finish the quests that are needed to receive the third, fourth, fifth and sixth city deeds. The Seals were introduced to the game starting with the sixth city deed. The second feature is to increase a knights loyalty, alas loyalty has not been built into the game yet.

Crests can be gained in two ways. You can either attack a wilderness and be victorious for a chance to get a crest, please see the drop rate table below, or by purchasing different chests in the shop for different crests.

Types of crest

There are several types that can be found in the game.

Crest Name Properties Level of Wilderness
Bors Sir Bor's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 5% 5-7
Ectors Sir Ector's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 10% 5-7
Kays Sir Kay's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 15% 5-8
Bediveres Sir Bedivere's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 20% 6-8
Gawains Sir Gawain's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 25% 6-8
Percivals Sir Percival's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 30% 7-9
Galahad Sir Galahad's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 40% 7-9
Lancelot Sir Lancelot's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 50% 7-9
Arthur King Arthur's Crest Increases Knights loyalty by 60% 8-10
Morgana Morgana's Seal N/A 8-10
1111 Mordred's Seal N/A 8-10
  • Seals cannot increase loyalty.

Where to find them

Crests are available by a victorious attack on an unowned level 5 Wilderness and above. See Tournament of Crests strategy section for advice on collecting crests from wilds. It is not necessary to keep control of the wilderness, that is to conquer it and keep it as a wild controlled by your city's castle. When you win a crest, it will be listed n the battle report along with the other "loot". Or, you can check under my items to see how many crests you currently have. The table in the section above includes a column for which level wildernesses each can be found.

These are the chances of drop calculated on the Crest_Drop_Research page, per attack, as per 25/09/2010

The Easy Way:

Crests are randomly placed throughout wilds every hour. If you were to build lists of certain lvl wilds you want to hit, you could hit them every hour instead of looking through other wilds. This way, it's easier and quicker to find the crests you need.

Also if you stay on your 'Map' screen and hit 5 of the same type and lvl of wilds, your chances of getting crests go up.

The Hard but Fast Way by Xeger:

For you die hards who have been getting aggervated by crest farming, I got ya covered. The easiest way to get your 3rd and 4th city deed, is to select a type of wild, and attack relentlessly. Don't stop until you win a crest. Send out three or four waves consisting of your suicide squad, and your main force. Once you have obtained a crest, wait for the rest to get back in, then attack a new type of wild. But don't be suprised if you attacked six times and did not get one, I can assure you that you will. And, if you time it right, a minute or less between your main attack forces, you could score twice, So get those fingures ready, and that mouse set. To acheive any of this you need to wuick, not super-fast. Just quick.

My best yet is 2 Bevidere's and 1 Kay, the attacks was a set of 4: 2 suicide squads, and two set's of archers, these groups going to lvl 7 mountains, and lvl 7 forest. So in this I scored 2/2 in the mountains, and 1/2 with the forest. My gains for crest farming is about 45% using this method.

Remember, Once you get a crest, move on. Also, when it comes to lakes and grasslands, treat them as seperate wilds, grasslands are better for farming than lakes. Happy cresting.

Tip: Forest have the best yeilds, then moutains, hills, plains, grasslands, and lastly lakes.

NOTE: Data for the new level system is in early stages!


Crest Drop Per Wilderness
Crest Level 5 Level 6 Level 7 Level 8 Level 9 Level 10
Bor 3.45% 3.84% 4.51% - - -
Ector 2.70% 2.74% 5.03% - - -
Kay 1.63% 1.20% 1.96% 3.46% - -
Bedivere - 0.43% 2.25% 2.44% - -
Gawain - 1.53% 3.61% 4.17% - -
Percival - - - 1.26% 2.30% -
Galahad - - - 1.33% 2.06% -
Lancelot - - - 1.65% 1.75% -

Arthur's

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It is also possible to buy a Squire's Chest from Shop for 90 Gems, a Knight's Chest for 150 Gems or a Lords Crest for 250 Gems. if you do spend gems to buy these chests there is not a 100% chance that you will get the right amount of chests to get a new city but, ive noticed if you get the knights chest there is a reasonable chance for you to get the right amount of crests for your 4th city.

The Squire's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Sir Bor's crests, and
  • 1~3 Sir Ector's crests, and
  • 1~3 Sir Kay's crests.

The Knight's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Sir Bevidere's Crest
  • 1~3 Sir Gawain's Crest
  • 1~3 Sir Percival's Crest

And the Lord's Chest will give you:

  • 1~3 Sir Galahad's Crest
  • 1~3 Sir Lancelot's Crest
  • 1~3 King Arthur's Crest

Loyalty

You can spend unused crest on your knights to get higher loyalty from them. In Knight Hall there is a button called "Reward". Click that button and choose "Crests". In the next picture you can choose which crest you want to use on that knight. Of course, since the loyalty has not come to any use yet, spending your crest on your knights' loyalty is a waste. However, once you increase their loyalty, it will not drop back to the amount of loyalty before.

Statistics

Crest statistics

For Research on Crest Drop: Crest Drop Research

Based on record keeping from the Tournament of Crests and collecting crests for a third city. I think these are reasonable assumptions:

  • Odds of dropping any crest from a level 7 wilderness = 1/20
  • Bor's crest is twice as likely to drop as Ector's crest
  • Ector's crest is twice as likely to drop as Kay's crest
  • Therefore, when a crest drops: 4/7 will be Bor's, 2/7 will be Ector's, and 1/7 will be Kay's.

To get the Third City Deed, you need to collect 4 Bor's, 2 Ector's and 1 Kay's crest. We can calculate the odds of finding at least that many crests in a given number of level 7 wildernesses with a little programming. The results are shown in this graph (click it to view full size).

On average, players will need to farm about 200 level-7 wilderness tiles to collect the crests needed to build a third city. As the graph shows, it will take almost twice that for 10% of the players. That is a lot of farming, and a lot of troops lost to the 150 traps on each of those tiles. Collecting crests is neither quick nor easy.

Note that these results are based entirely on level-7 wilderness farming. How the odds change for different levels of wildernesses is not known.

As of the November 22nd update King Arthur's Crests , Morgana's Seals and Mordred's Seals are now dropping in level 8-10 wilds